Discussion:
MPLAYER KILLS SPEECH
Craig Martin
2017-10-26 15:07:32 UTC
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Hi, guys,

I have a weird thing going on. When I start M player, it runs through
the file o.k, but nothing comes out of the speakers, and all my speech
goes away in my text consoles.

I'm running Wheezy Debian Seven sixty-four-bit. What say you?
Craig Martin

***@kc.rr.com
Kirk Reiser
2017-10-26 15:24:47 UTC
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Hey Craig: The only time I see that behaviour is when pulseaudio is running and it gets in the way of multiple audio streams. To check if that's the case you can:

ps aux | grep pulse

And kill it off it pulseaudio is running. You should also check to see
if there is a pulseaudio.conf or something like that in
/usr/share/alsa/ and remove it which will prevent alsa from restarting
it.

That's my only suggestion. You can try removing the pulseaudio package
but it is a dependency for a lot of other packages so will probably be
reinstalled on future apt upgrades.
Post by Craig Martin
Hi, guys,
I have a weird thing going on. When I start M player, it runs through
the file o.k, but nothing comes out of the speakers, and all my speech
goes away in my text consoles.
I'm running Wheezy Debian Seven sixty-four-bit. What say you?
Craig Martin
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Jude DaShiell
2017-10-26 15:47:36 UTC
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It's possible to pin pulseaudio so it never returns and you will of
course have alsa only issues with which to deal afterwards.
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:24:47
Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: MPLAYER KILLS SPEECH
Hey Craig: The only time I see that behaviour is when pulseaudio is running
and it gets in the way of multiple audio streams. To check if that's the case
ps aux | grep pulse
And kill it off it pulseaudio is running. You should also check to see
if there is a pulseaudio.conf or something like that in
/usr/share/alsa/ and remove it which will prevent alsa from restarting
it.
That's my only suggestion. You can try removing the pulseaudio package
but it is a dependency for a lot of other packages so will probably be
reinstalled on future apt upgrades.
Post by Craig Martin
Hi, guys,
I have a weird thing going on. When I start M player, it runs through
the file o.k, but nothing comes out of the speakers, and all my speech
goes away in my text consoles.
I'm running Wheezy Debian Seven sixty-four-bit. What say you?
Craig Martin
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Speakup mailing list
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Jude DaShiell
2017-10-26 15:45:05 UTC
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try killing speakup just as you run mplayer then start speakup again the
way you killed it. When I use mplayer which isn't often, I have a
configuration file that disables video and that helps over here. Please
consider upgrading Debian, you're two versions behind and one of the
things those version updates do is fix security problems.
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:07:32
Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: MPLAYER KILLS SPEECH
Hi, guys,
I have a weird thing going on. When I start M player, it runs through
the file o.k, but nothing comes out of the speakers, and all my speech
goes away in my text consoles.
I'm running Wheezy Debian Seven sixty-four-bit. What say you?
Craig Martin
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Craig Martin
2017-10-26 18:36:30 UTC
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Hi, there, Duke,

I have the same problem on my Jessie Debian eight system. So it's not
the version, as M player ran until this morning when after I'd played
some MP3 files it just quit altogether..

Thank you,

Craig Martin
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Craig Martin
2017-10-26 19:17:16 UTC
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Hi, Kirk and guys.

When i did the

ps aux | grep pulse

I got the following:

112 3335 0.0 0.3 233144 6232 ? S<l 14:04 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog

What does that mean, and what's next. Orca was not up, and I didn't log
into a gnome screen. Thank you all,

Craig Martin
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Kirk Reiser
2017-10-26 21:32:28 UTC
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Hi again Craig: That tells you a bunch of information about the
pulseaudio process that is running. The first number is probably your
uid although I thought it would have given your username you are
logged in as. The second number is the pid or process id. to kill off
that process you can do one of two things. type:

kill -9 3335

or a more sloppy method is to type:

killall -9 pulse

Which will kill all processes that have pulse in their names. I'd recommend the first method in this case.

Then remove the pulseaudio.conf file I mentioned in the previous
message or pulse will just be started up again.

Kirk
Post by Craig Martin
Hi, Kirk and guys.
When i did the
ps aux | grep pulse
112 3335 0.0 0.3 233144 6232 ? S<l 14:04 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
What does that mean, and what's next. Orca was not up, and I didn't log
into a gnome screen. Thank you all,
Craig Martin
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Craig Martin
2017-10-26 23:24:44 UTC
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Hi, Kirk,

Looks like I'll have to kill pulsaudio. will keep you posted.
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Craig Martin
2017-10-26 23:27:30 UTC
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Hi, Kirk and all,

I killed all pulse audio processes, and no good, consoles dead where
speech is concerned.
thanks,

Craig Martin
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Craig Martin
2017-10-26 23:40:19 UTC
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Hi, guys,

I killed 3335, kirk, moved the only pulse file in /usr/share/alsa,
called pulse-alsa.conf from the directory, rebooted, and hear's what I
got when I did

ps aux | grep pulse

the screen said,

3371 0.0 0.2 232748 5820 ? S<l 18:29 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
craig 4083 0.7 0.3 243180 6244 ? S<l 18:31 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
root 4131 0.0 0.0 7840 848 tty6 S+ 18:32 0:00 grep
pulse

Lots more information, there.

What next?

Craig Martin
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Kirk Reiser
2017-10-27 01:03:27 UTC
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What appears to be happening is you kill it off and it restarts on
reboot so I'd recommend removing pulseauio and it shouldn't start
again until the next time you apt upgrade.

rm /usr/bin/pulseaudio
Post by Craig Martin
Hi, guys,
I killed 3335, kirk, moved the only pulse file in /usr/share/alsa,
called pulse-alsa.conf from the directory, rebooted, and hear's what I
got when I did
ps aux | grep pulse
the screen said,
3371 0.0 0.2 232748 5820 ? S<l 18:29 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
craig 4083 0.7 0.3 243180 6244 ? S<l 18:31 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
root 4131 0.0 0.0 7840 848 tty6 S+ 18:32 0:00 grep
pulse
Lots more information, there.
What next?
Craig Martin
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Since Craig is running debian, an even better solution is something
like:

dpkg-divert /usr/bin/pulseaudio

which will prevent that binary from being put back when pulseaudio is
upgraded as far as I know. The best solution is to remove the
pulseaudio package entirely, but if Craig is using gnome, I believe
gnome has a dependency on pulseaudio, though I'd be happy to be
corrected if I'm wrong.

Greg
Post by Kirk Reiser
What appears to be happening is you kill it off and it restarts on
reboot so I'd recommend removing pulseauio and it shouldn't start
again until the next time you apt upgrade.
rm /usr/bin/pulseaudio
Post by Craig Martin
Hi, guys,
I killed 3335, kirk, moved the only pulse file in /usr/share/alsa,
called pulse-alsa.conf from the directory, rebooted, and hear's what I
got when I did
ps aux | grep pulse
the screen said,
3371 0.0 0.2 232748 5820 ? S<l 18:29 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
craig 4083 0.7 0.3 243180 6244 ? S<l 18:31 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
root 4131 0.0 0.0 7840 848 tty6 S+ 18:32 0:00 grep
pulse
Lots more information, there.
What next?
Craig Martin
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Gene Collins
2017-10-27 08:39:59 UTC
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Hi Craig! You obviously hav something in your boot scripts that is
calling pulseaudio. Check in /etc/init.d for pulse*, and move it to
somdwhere it won't get executed, then reboot. When you want to log in
to gnome and use orca, you can manually run the script with the start
parameter. When you are finished with gnome, you can rerun the script
with the stop parameter.

If this doesn't help, give me acall.

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John Covici
2017-10-27 09:01:09 UTC
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I think you need to go to /etc/pulse and find a client.conf and in
there you will see a line which says autospawn and make sure its no.
If you do this you will need to make sure speech-dispatcher is set to
use alsa instead, in the speechdispatcher.conf file. I am not sure
what to do if you are using espeakup, I always run using speechd-up
and speech dispatcher when I use speakup this way.

I hope this helps.


On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 19:40:19 -0400,
Post by Craig Martin
Hi, guys,
I killed 3335, kirk, moved the only pulse file in /usr/share/alsa,
called pulse-alsa.conf from the directory, rebooted, and hear's what I
got when I did
ps aux | grep pulse
the screen said,
3371 0.0 0.2 232748 5820 ? S<l 18:29 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
craig 4083 0.7 0.3 243180 6244 ? S<l 18:31 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
root 4131 0.0 0.0 7840 848 tty6 S+ 18:32 0:00 grep
pulse
Lots more information, there.
What next?
Craig Martin
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Gene Collins
2017-10-27 09:54:20 UTC
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Hi Craig! You obviously hav something in your boot scripts that is
calling pulseaudio. Check in /etc/init.d for pulse*, and move it to
somdwhere it won't get executed, then reboot. When you want to log in
to gnome and use orca, you can manually run the script with the start
parameter. When you are finished with gnome, you can rerun the script
with the stop parameter.

If this doesn't help, give me acall.

Gene
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Gene Collins
2017-10-27 09:58:37 UTC
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Hi Craig! You obviously hav something in your boot scripts that is
calling pulseaudio. Check in /etc/init.d for pulse*, and move it to
somdwhere it won't get executed, then reboot. When you want to log in
to gnome and use orca, you can manually run the script with the start
parameter. When you are finished with gnome, you can rerun the script
with the stop parameter.

If this doesn't help, give me acall.

Gene
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Gene Collins
2017-10-27 09:58:01 UTC
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Hi Craig! You obviously hav something in your boot scripts that is
calling pulseaudio. Check in /etc/init.d for pulse*, and move it to
somdwhere it won't get executed, then reboot. When you want to log in
to gnome and use orca, you can manually run the script with the start
parameter. When you are finished with gnome, you can rerun the script
with the stop parameter.

If this doesn't help, give me acall.

Gene
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