gentoo request

[Jude DaShiell]

If it's not going to be possible to have an effective gentoo install disk
made as was described a while back as a fall ba ck would it be possible
for an audio gentoo install tutorial to be produced?

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[c***@ccs.covici.com]

Does not the gentoo install disk have speakup? Its all commands anyway,
there is no gui for that.

Post by Jude DaShiell
If it's not going to be possible to have an effective gentoo install
disk made as was described a while back as a fall ba ck would it be
possible for an audio gentoo install tutorial to be produced?
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[Jude DaShiell]

gentoo is up there with Fedora moonshine for install complexity. Too
many ways to get it wrong especially in connection with speakup access
after installation is complete.
By way of example, archlinux needs 2 pages of braill paper to install.
Gentoo needs 7 pages and probably more than that since I never finished
an instalation of it I don't have the full count for that. Maybe main
menu already produced this, I'll have to start looking through episodes
and see what I can find.

Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 05:25:56
Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: gentoo request
Does not the gentoo install disk have speakup? Its all commands anyway,
there is no gui for that.

Post by Jude DaShiell
If it's not going to be possible to have an effective gentoo install
disk made as was described a while back as a fall ba ck would it be
possible for an audio gentoo install tutorial to be produced?
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[c***@ccs.covici.com]

At least in gentoo, you get things the way you want, not imposed by some
dev somewhere. To each his own.

Post by Jude DaShiell
gentoo is up there with Fedora moonshine for install complexity. Too
many ways to get it wrong especially in connection with speakup access
after installation is complete.
By way of example, archlinux needs 2 pages of braill paper to
install. Gentoo needs 7 pages and probably more than that since I
never finished an instalation of it I don't have the full count for
that. Maybe main menu already produced this, I'll have to start
looking through episodes and see what I can find.

Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 05:25:56
Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: gentoo request
Does not the gentoo install disk have speakup? Its all commands anyway,
there is no gui for that.

Post by Jude DaShiell
If it's not going to be possible to have an effective gentoo install
disk made as was described a while back as a fall ba ck would it be
possible for an audio gentoo install tutorial to be produced?
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[Kyle]

According to ***@ccs.covici.com:
# At least in gentoo, you get things the way you want, not imposed by
# some dev somewhere. To each his own.

Perhaps, but I tried a Gentoo installation, and although I eventually
did get it to run in qemu, I wasn't able to get things the way I wanted
them. I wanted the latest GNOME, but found it hard masked, so I
couldn't install anyting other than I believe 2 versions earlier. I
found that Arch was far easier to install, but also gave me the latest
GNOME if I wanted it, with no hard mask, whatever that meant, and if I
didn't want GNOME, I didn't have to have it. I found Arch to be the
most flexible and customizable with the least amount of hassle, even
though Gentoo is almost completely source based, which would lead to
the logical assumption that Gentoo should have been more customizable
overall.
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[c***@ccs.covici.com]

If its masked, you can unmask it unless it says something about no
keywords, and there is a way to fix that as well. But arch is pretty
good and indeed less work than gentoo.

Post by Kyle
# At least in gentoo, you get things the way you want, not imposed by
# some dev somewhere. To each his own.
Perhaps, but I tried a Gentoo installation, and although I eventually
did get it to run in qemu, I wasn't able to get things the way I wanted
them. I wanted the latest GNOME, but found it hard masked, so I
couldn't install anyting other than I believe 2 versions earlier. I
found that Arch was far easier to install, but also gave me the latest
GNOME if I wanted it, with no hard mask, whatever that meant, and if I
didn't want GNOME, I didn't have to have it. I found Arch to be the
most flexible and customizable with the least amount of hassle, even
though Gentoo is almost completely source based, which would lead to
the logical assumption that Gentoo should have been more customizable
overall.
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[Kyle]

Well, there's masked, and i figured that out, but GNOME, when I tried
to install it, was hard masked, I guess meaning that there was no way
to unmask it. Something I read indicated that it was hard masked by the
package maintainers, possibly because of some sort of conflict or bug,
but this was roughly 3 months after the release, so I'm not sure why it
was still hard masked.

In any case, it's really good to see the geekier side of Linux getting
a bit of attention, and I may give Gentoo another try, either in a VM,
on an old laptop I have, or on an ARM board if it works on those. I did
see something recently that indicated that it may work on some of them,
so it would be really nice to experiment with it on the boards I've
purchased.
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[c***@ccs.covici.com]

The latest gnome is in an overlay called gnome and is 3.16, and I think
a lot of it has gone stable as well.

Post by Kyle
Well, there's masked, and i figured that out, but GNOME, when I tried
to install it, was hard masked, I guess meaning that there was no way
to unmask it. Something I read indicated that it was hard masked by the
package maintainers, possibly because of some sort of conflict or bug,
but this was roughly 3 months after the release, so I'm not sure why it
was still hard masked.
In any case, it's really good to see the geekier side of Linux getting
a bit of attention, and I may give Gentoo another try, either in a VM,
on an old laptop I have, or on an ARM board if it works on those. I did
see something recently that indicated that it may work on some of them,
so it would be really nice to experiment with it on the boards I've
purchased.
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[Kyle]

Ah nice. I didn't work very much with overlays, but I also didn't find
one for GNOME when I tried it a bit over 2 years ago. Yeah, I'll
definitely be giving this a look again, as I've always been interested
in the geekier side of GNU/Linux, even though I live by mottos like
"Linux is for everyone," and "it's not just for freaky geekies
anymore." LOL.
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