Enabling Speakup in Vinux?

[Hart Larry]

Hi All: First, I had no easy way of joining a Vinux list, as you must sign in
through google groups-and-google won't even send a password reminder, and
writing to a contact address at Vinux did no good.
It would sure be alot easier-and-`much more helpful if they had a windows
executable to run to install, instead of needing to jump through hoops with an
iso. To my surprise it let us install Vinux along side windows vista, without
nuking a JAWS authorization.
So now if I boot Vinux, I get what seems to be a graphical with `horrible
speech, probably e-speak. But if I switch to a console, I get no speech. I did
purchase Voxen, which I would always rather hear. Unfortunately, the Vinux WIKI
does not provide any instructions in configuring or setting up speech. Also,
while I don't mind having graphical as an option, I would rather it boot in a
TCSH shell with Speakup-and-Voxen. I can supposedly edit whatever files would be
required, in Notepad in windows to accomplish these, if some1 will please inform
what to edit. This is a 64bit image, for some reason, as a duel boot there are
some other test items which I should remove. On the WIKI, it makes refferences
to having both Speakup-and-YASR, so please, how do I enable these? Thanks so
much in advance
Hart

[Glenn]

Hi Larry,
You need to install Voxin differently in Vinux.
Here's a page that will explain the steps.
http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/voxin
Also, speakup should come up in a shell.
I prefer Voxin to eSpeak too.
Perhaps if you get Voxin installed, you will get speech in a terminal.
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hart Larry" <***@hubert-humphrey.com>
To: <***@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:19 PM
Subject: Enabling Speakup in Vinux?


Hi All: First, I had no easy way of joining a Vinux list, as you must sign
in
through google groups-and-google won't even send a password reminder, and
writing to a contact address at Vinux did no good.
It would sure be alot easier-and-`much more helpful if they had a windows
executable to run to install, instead of needing to jump through hoops with
an
iso. To my surprise it let us install Vinux along side windows vista,
without
nuking a JAWS authorization.
So now if I boot Vinux, I get what seems to be a graphical with `horrible
speech, probably e-speak. But if I switch to a console, I get no speech. I
did
purchase Voxen, which I would always rather hear. Unfortunately, the Vinux
WIKI
does not provide any instructions in configuring or setting up speech. Also,
while I don't mind having graphical as an option, I would rather it boot in
a
TCSH shell with Speakup-and-Voxen. I can supposedly edit whatever files
would be
required, in Notepad in windows to accomplish these, if some1 will please
inform
what to edit. This is a 64bit image, for some reason, as a duel boot there
are
some other test items which I should remove. On the WIKI, it makes
refferences
to having both Speakup-and-YASR, so please, how do I enable these? Thanks so
much in advance
Hart
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
***@linux-speakup.org
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

[Karen Lewellen]

Larry,
did you try joining the vinux support forum from your inbox?
you do not need to log into google groups to reach groups there.
instead send a blank email here.
vinux-support+***@googlegroups.com
You will be sent a confirmation email, just as if you joined a yahoo
group.
Just tried it myself and it worked, although I am not going to join.
Hope this is helpful,
Karen

Post by Glenn
Hi Larry,
You need to install Voxin differently in Vinux.
Here's a page that will explain the steps.
http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/voxin
Also, speakup should come up in a shell.
I prefer Voxin to eSpeak too.
Perhaps if you get Voxin installed, you will get speech in a terminal.
HTH.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:19 PM
Subject: Enabling Speakup in Vinux?
Hi All: First, I had no easy way of joining a Vinux list, as you must sign in
through google groups-and-google won't even send a password reminder, and
writing to a contact address at Vinux did no good.
It would sure be alot easier-and-`much more helpful if they had a windows
executable to run to install, instead of needing to jump through hoops with an
iso. To my surprise it let us install Vinux along side windows vista, without
nuking a JAWS authorization.
So now if I boot Vinux, I get what seems to be a graphical with `horrible
speech, probably e-speak. But if I switch to a console, I get no speech. I did
purchase Voxen, which I would always rather hear. Unfortunately, the Vinux WIKI
does not provide any instructions in configuring or setting up speech. Also,
while I don't mind having graphical as an option, I would rather it boot in a
TCSH shell with Speakup-and-Voxen. I can supposedly edit whatever files would be
required, in Notepad in windows to accomplish these, if some1 will please inform
what to edit. This is a 64bit image, for some reason, as a duel boot there are
some other test items which I should remove. On the WIKI, it makes refferences
to having both Speakup-and-YASR, so please, how do I enable these? Thanks so
much in advance
Hart
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup

[Glenn]

Larry,
It also occurred to me that perhaps Vinux is not the best choice, if you
don't want a GUI environment.
As that is the distinction of most distros, is the GUI.
I think you can get just Debian core, without a GUI, which is what you would
be left with if you removed Gnome Desktop from Vinux.
Actually, I'm not sure now if it is Debian or Arch underneath the Gnome
Desktop.
There is Talking Arch out there, which would give you the CLI if that is
what you prefer.
One nice thing about a GUI is that it makes connecting to hotspots easy, and
it is also easier to find the packages that are already installed.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hart Larry" <***@hubert-humphrey.com>
To: <***@linux-speakup.org>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:19 PM
Subject: Enabling Speakup in Vinux?


Hi All: First, I had no easy way of joining a Vinux list, as you must sign
in
through google groups-and-google won't even send a password reminder, and
writing to a contact address at Vinux did no good.
It would sure be alot easier-and-`much more helpful if they had a windows
executable to run to install, instead of needing to jump through hoops with
an
iso. To my surprise it let us install Vinux along side windows vista,
without
nuking a JAWS authorization.
So now if I boot Vinux, I get what seems to be a graphical with `horrible
speech, probably e-speak. But if I switch to a console, I get no speech. I
did
purchase Voxen, which I would always rather hear. Unfortunately, the Vinux
WIKI
does not provide any instructions in configuring or setting up speech. Also,
while I don't mind having graphical as an option, I would rather it boot in
a
TCSH shell with Speakup-and-Voxen. I can supposedly edit whatever files
would be
required, in Notepad in windows to accomplish these, if some1 will please
inform
what to edit. This is a 64bit image, for some reason, as a duel boot there
are
some other test items which I should remove. On the WIKI, it makes
refferences
to having both Speakup-and-YASR, so please, how do I enable these? Thanks so
much in advance
Hart

[John G Heim]

I think you're looking at this the wrong way. You need to think of
yourself as part of the linux team now. For example, espeak is a
remarkable technical achievement. One guy, Jonathan Duddington, pretty
much all by himself, created a software speech synth to rival IBM's
voxim. If you think that's easy, try festival and flite which were
created by researchers at fairly well funded universities. Both those
software synths have their advantages but there is a reason everyone
uses espeak now. I am not saying you should be like some linux nerds who
insist espeak is better than voxim. I don't think there is anything
wrong with acknowledging the limitations of espeak, orca, and linux in
general. But at the same time, you can't think of yourself as a customer
who isn't getting the kind of service he is used to. You are as
responsible for this as anybody. The fact that there is no windows
executable to install linux is as much on you as it is on anybody. Maybe
you don't have the kind of technical skill it takes to build something
like that -- and that's fine. But nobody else has any more
responsibility for building that than you do.


You wouldn't join a softball team and then at the first game go around
saying how crummy the star player is especially if you're not
particularly good yourself, right? That's why I'm saying you're looking
at this the wrong way. You need to look at it as if you've joined a
team. Because you have joined a team whether you acknowledge it or not.

Post by Hart Larry
Hi All: First, I had no easy way of joining a Vinux list, as you must
sign in through google groups-and-google won't even send a password
reminder, and writing to a contact address at Vinux did no good.
It would sure be alot easier-and-`much more helpful if they had a
windows executable to run to install, instead of needing to jump
through hoops with an iso. To my surprise it let us install Vinux
along side windows vista, without nuking a JAWS authorization.
So now if I boot Vinux, I get what seems to be a graphical with
`horrible speech, probably e-speak. But if I switch to a console, I
get no speech. I did purchase Voxen, which I would always rather hear.
Unfortunately, the Vinux WIKI does not provide any instructions in
configuring or setting up speech. Also, while I don't mind having
graphical as an option, I would rather it boot in a TCSH shell with
Speakup-and-Voxen. I can supposedly edit whatever files would be
required, in Notepad in windows to accomplish these, if some1 will
please inform what to edit. This is a 64bit image, for some reason, as
a duel boot there are some other test items which I should remove. On
the WIKI, it makes refferences to having both Speakup-and-YASR, so
please, how do I enable these? Thanks so much in advance
Hart
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup