From personal experience, ArchLinux is just about as good a command-line environment as you’re likely to get. The TalkingArch CD works very well for installing, and you’re left with a setup which is minimal and easy to learn from.
I highly recommend you switch to trying to mess with that.
> On Jan 30, 2018, at 8:12 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That is good to know. I was afraid that a lot of the tools were not
> command line based. Oh well. perhaps I will just set up an arch linux
> vm and play with that.
>
> I would still like to learn how to setup speakup, but Kali is probably
> not the best to do that with.
>
> Thanks for all of the replies,
>
> TJ Breitenfeldt
>
> On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <***@oracle.com> wrote:
>> Tim,
>>
>> A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal preference is
>> to use the mate desktop but that is because I got started in Linux under the
>> old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten used to the new unity/gnome3
>> interface.
>>
>> Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate with orca
>> to work, so I am trying to debug that problem.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Timothy Breitenfeldt [mailto:***@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:23 AM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <***@linux-speakup.org>
>> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
>>
>> Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali
>> because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep in
>> mind that arch is a better option for this though.
>>
>> The output of
>> locate speakup.ko
>>
>> /lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.ko
>>
>> For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to
>> install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now.
>> Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup.
>> I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all.
>>
>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>
>> On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <***@oracle.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux
>>> distro.
>>> Ubuntu server is another good choice.
>>>
>>> If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choice.
>>> The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian
>>> talking installer. I haven't checked lately but if I remember right
>>> speakup does not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be
>>> working on a custom kali version that will be more accessible (when I have
>>> a few minutes).
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:***@rednote.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM
>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>>> <***@linux-speakup.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
>>>
>>> So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a
>>> rather oddball choice.
>>>
>>>
>>> The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running
>>> Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with
>>> Speakup, or whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once
>>> again, what's the output of:
>>>
>>> locate speakup.ko
>>>
>>> Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like
>>> Arch which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking
>>> installation
>>> available:
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.archlinux.or
>>> g_index.php_TalkingArch&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65
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>>>
>>> If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly
>>> install a GUI desktop.
>>>
>>> There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a
>>> functioning system with minimul fuss.
>>>
>>> Janina
>>>
>>> Timothy Breitenfeldt writes:
>>>> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am
>>>> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class
>>>> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to
>>>> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while,
>>>> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for
>>>> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running
>>>> on Kali.
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.o
>>>> r
>>>> g_pipermail_speakup_2015-2DMay_058755.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHv
>>>> l
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>>>>
>>>> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup
>>>> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup
>>>> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn
>>>> next quarter along with other operating system concepts.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume
>>>> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to
>>>> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)?
>>>>
>>>> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>>>
>>>> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser <***@reisers.ca> wrote:
>>>>> To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui
>>>>> console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of
>>>>> the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome
>>>>> and gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Timothy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to speakup :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeaku
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>>>>>> which should help.
>>>>>> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko
>>>>>> and the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So
>>>>>> for example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also
>>>>>> use software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synth.
>>>>>> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need.
>>>>>> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech
>>>>>> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting
>>>>>> stuck then we can help more :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>> Okash
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt
>>>>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really
>>>>>>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the
>>>>>>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple
>>>>>>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't
>>>>>>> get it to work with the instructions given. Does anyone have any
>>>>>>> suggestions on how to get speakup running on Kali, as well as how
>>>>>>> to switch from Gnome desktop to just a console?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Well that's it then, colour me secure!
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Janina Sajka
>>>
>>> Linux Foundation Fellow
>>> Executive Chair, Accessibility
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